I've seen the 2019 plans. However, they should at least put dotted line to indicate the future Waterfront West LRT would continue from the Exhibition Loop westward. If they haven't decided, at least show the options as "future" to be decided by someone in a different timeline universe.
Honestly I really do not like that the platforms are only accessible after fare validation, it's probably my swiss bias talking here, but when platforms access is restricted they cease to be a dwelling space to be just an open corridor.
it forces all dwelling time to be in the station hall, which means you covered the platforms at some expense almost for nothing, and need the main hall to be bigger since everyone chilling will be crammed in the hall instead of using the huge space provided by the platforms. Finally, it prevents having social moments on the platforms saying your goodbyes to friends or loved ones, and that may be a bit cliche, but that's a shame.
Also it wouldn't have been necessary to have both underground and overground access to the platforms, it's ice it's there, but it's also some real overengineering, which is something fare gates create constantly.
I note that there are no plans to resolve the really long walk between the existing streetcar loop's entrance & exit, which feels like 400m to the GO station entrance. A stop at, before, or just after the loop curve, _right beside the GO station entrance_ is much needed, at non-crush times, to allow passengers to transfer on & off streetcars very quickly to the GO, and in a few years, Ontario Line station. At crush times, like sports and other events, and the Ex, block off this streetcar stop and use the main, large capacity existing stop. In my experience, there are many more days & times of low crowds transferring to/from the streetcars here, so the new stop makes sense.
Walter, the project is called Waterfront West LRT. The existing plans had it heading west from the Exhibition streetcar loop, see https://www.toronto.ca/legdocs/mmis/2019/ep/bgrd/backgroundfile-131927.pdf for the TTC's 2019 plans. These actually have some buildings for the Ontario Line sketched in, but they don't seem to match the latest Ontario Line drawings that Reece shows in this post. The Waterfront West LRT plan was passive provision for tracks westward at the curve north on Dufferin. Other WWLRT plans indicate it'll follow the railway corridor to about Roncies, where it'll join the existing Queensway streetcar right of way.
Reece I wish you had $10B to your name and real-estate company under your control!!!! you have such awesome yet perfectly practical ideas when it comes to retail and residential development opportunities! you'd make Toronto truly world-class!
GO Toronto!
I've seen the 2019 plans. However, they should at least put dotted line to indicate the future Waterfront West LRT would continue from the Exhibition Loop westward. If they haven't decided, at least show the options as "future" to be decided by someone in a different timeline universe.
Honestly I really do not like that the platforms are only accessible after fare validation, it's probably my swiss bias talking here, but when platforms access is restricted they cease to be a dwelling space to be just an open corridor.
it forces all dwelling time to be in the station hall, which means you covered the platforms at some expense almost for nothing, and need the main hall to be bigger since everyone chilling will be crammed in the hall instead of using the huge space provided by the platforms. Finally, it prevents having social moments on the platforms saying your goodbyes to friends or loved ones, and that may be a bit cliche, but that's a shame.
Also it wouldn't have been necessary to have both underground and overground access to the platforms, it's ice it's there, but it's also some real overengineering, which is something fare gates create constantly.
Very exciting! I hope the station is ready for the World Cup, even if the Ontario Line isn't.
Hey Reece, I noticed that you were feature by Metrolinx in their news page. It was nice to see Metrolinx featuring you.
Wow! This looks very awesome!
I note that there are no plans to resolve the really long walk between the existing streetcar loop's entrance & exit, which feels like 400m to the GO station entrance. A stop at, before, or just after the loop curve, _right beside the GO station entrance_ is much needed, at non-crush times, to allow passengers to transfer on & off streetcars very quickly to the GO, and in a few years, Ontario Line station. At crush times, like sports and other events, and the Ex, block off this streetcar stop and use the main, large capacity existing stop. In my experience, there are many more days & times of low crowds transferring to/from the streetcars here, so the new stop makes sense.
Is the Lakeshore West LRT still pencilled in? Or erased? Or redacted under the cloak of privacy?
Will they even do anything with the Dufferin bridges? Nothing seems to have been done since 2013, except for the Dufferin Gates Loop.
Walter, the project is called Waterfront West LRT. The existing plans had it heading west from the Exhibition streetcar loop, see https://www.toronto.ca/legdocs/mmis/2019/ep/bgrd/backgroundfile-131927.pdf for the TTC's 2019 plans. These actually have some buildings for the Ontario Line sketched in, but they don't seem to match the latest Ontario Line drawings that Reece shows in this post. The Waterfront West LRT plan was passive provision for tracks westward at the curve north on Dufferin. Other WWLRT plans indicate it'll follow the railway corridor to about Roncies, where it'll join the existing Queensway streetcar right of way.
Reece I wish you had $10B to your name and real-estate company under your control!!!! you have such awesome yet perfectly practical ideas when it comes to retail and residential development opportunities! you'd make Toronto truly world-class!